a very foggy/misty scene

budgetguy · Post by **budgetguy** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:35 pm

to avoid going all-digital on a battle scene in my film, im going to have a large battle on a field, but have it very foggy so only the closest people can be seen. Does anyone know how im going to get that much fog onto a field? even with the best equipment i would imagine that it would all disperse. maybe if i tried filming inside?

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:13 pm

hmmm, where do you live? whats your time constraints? Could you maybe put it on hold untill you have a foggy day?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:27 am

true look for a low lying area and weather to match

Nightingale_zero · Post by **Nightingale_zero** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:46 pm

Yeah thats about your only option. The only other half baked idea I can come up with is to use some really big white smoke bombs on a not so windy day and letting it disperse a little to look more like fog.

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:04 pm

Well what I would do is take the area you are going to use, and get some big smoke mashenes, are lots of buckets dry ice and fans, and figure out what collor your fog is going to be. then take some reflecters that match the fog and put them around the area you are in, turn on the fog and hopefuly it will bounce back from the reflectors, which will blend in. Try and shot on an overcast day, but if sunny you can fix that in post with filters.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:32 pm

yeah foxwood i tired that once.... it actually looks pretty ok!

budgetguy · Post by **budgetguy** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 5:28 pm

i live in essex, UK, so there is some country side. foxwood i may use ur ideas, and i guess it would be possible to film them in my back garden if the weather suits it. thanks guys

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:26 pm

Well you live in the UK isn't the weather foggy there often?

budgetguy · Post by **budgetguy** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 6:48 pm

the UK's weather is only ever the opposite of what u want

justsomeguy · Post by **justsomeguy** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:55 pm

you can make the fog digitally right? but itll probably look really bad. I'd wait for a foggy day if you can or just use foxwoods idea

reflexive_cinematics · Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:49 pm

Do it like they did in 'The Others'. The used a lot of masks alpha channels and layered the scenes to look foggy and 'misty'. Came out awesome! If you've got the double DVD set , watch the 2nd disc about and all the special fx.

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:49 pm

It will always as an effect look better when it is done old school, those skills are great to have.

BenjaminLevin · Post by **BenjaminLevin** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:52 am

I would use a fog machine.

Gyro · Post by **Gyro** » Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:40 am

BenjaminLevin wrote:I would use a fog machine.

yeah, genius

BenjaminLevin · Post by **BenjaminLevin** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:28 am

They've gotten a little cheaper too. Depending on what kind it is the fog should last for a long time. They've worked well for me in the past so mess around with one and see how it works for you.

Syras · Post by **Syras** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:42 am

if ur still at skool and they have a drama department try them for a fog machine. i asked mine and they leant me the fog machine and gave me as much fog juice as i needed because they buy in bulk (and i'm not even a drama student

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budgetguy · Post by **budgetguy** » Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:45 pm

cool ideas, just 3 questions about fog machines:
1. what is the best model for the best price?
2. are they good enough to fill an entire room with fog?
3. will the fog have any effect on wallpaper/room or any effects on the health of people breathing it?
thanks

budgetguy · Post by **budgetguy** » Sat May 01, 2004 7:51 pm

ne1 care to help me out with these last Qs? thanks

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Sat May 01, 2004 10:43 pm

1. Two of them from K-mart for $20 each will be as good as a $200 one from a party shop.
2. Yes.
3. No, concerning that you use it properly.

budgetguy · Post by **budgetguy** » Sun May 02, 2004 5:00 pm

cool thanks for the advice, now i'll just find the british equivilent of K-mart!

Gyro · Post by **Gyro** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:35 pm

Doesnt Adobe After Effects have a fog effect?

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Tue May 04, 2004 5:39 am

Well, post production fogs will never have the correct depth around actors as it would in real life.

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Tue May 04, 2004 6:01 am

Gyro wrote:Doesnt Adobe After Effects have a fog effect?

Don't do in post what you can do in production.

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Tue May 04, 2004 7:07 am

foxwood wrote:Don't do in post what you can do in production.

Unless your name is George Lucas.

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Tue May 04, 2004 7:08 am

Epsilon wrote:
foxwood wrote:Don't do in post what you can do in production.
Unless your name is George Lucas.

Well he needs to just make animated fetures and skip filmming since his actors already act as stiff as cartoons.