Muzzle Flashes!

jordanlacey · Post by **jordanlacey** » Tue May 11, 2004 6:33 pm

Hey all, first time poster, long time reader, Ha!

Alright me and my friend just finished editing a test special effects and I want your opinions!

I made the muzzle flash small cuz it was overlapping the head, other than that, I need advice on the blood!

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pan-modo_pictures · Post by **pan-modo_pictures** » Tue May 11, 2004 7:15 pm

I was watching it on a pretty dark screen so I didn't see any . It looked alright though.

Post by **Matt** » Tue May 11, 2004 8:54 pm

Welcome to the forum! Looked good. I think it would look better if you made the blood darker.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:54 pm

Looks pretty good!

We made a similar test of our own, where I pointed a Deagle at my duplicates head, and pulled the trigger. The shooter and the victim are both lit up by the muzzle flash (as well as including a small flame from the barrel) and we also animated a bit of particle brain matter before I collapsed on my bed

. It's only a single static side-on camera shot, but for a test, that's all that was required.

I could post the link, but it was filmed on my Sony P72 Digicam! (quality's viewable, and it has a good soundtrack)

Up to you

.

jordanlacey · Post by **jordanlacey** » Wed May 12, 2004 12:04 am

Durandal wrote:Looks pretty good!

I could post the link, but it was filmed on my Sony P72 Digicam! (quality's viewable, and it has a good soundtrack)

Up to you .

I would love to see it!

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Wed May 12, 2004 5:16 am

Okay, not bad. First off, I recommend deinterlacing the footage to eliminate though alternating lines in the movie. I would put a real recoil into that gun! The flash looks fine, though depending it may spread a bit more. Most people get carried away with huge flashes! Blood would blast out instantly after being shot in the head, the recoil should almost match the frame. The bullet would travel very fast. And the impact would most likely blow much much more than just blood at that range... try like part of the brain and a portion of the skull!

A shot in between the eyes is almost a guarenteed instant death, although there are few accounts where people have survived shots to the head!

jordanlacey · Post by **jordanlacey** » Wed May 12, 2004 5:37 am

Alright, i have had people say 'De-interlace' but HOW!? I am using Adobe Premeir 6. Please, enlighten me.

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Wed May 12, 2004 6:08 am

Alrighty, to deinterlace in Premiere 6: When you use export to movie, click the settings button. Then scroll down to Special Processing and click on the modify button. Select deinterlace. Whoala!

Chris_film · Post by **Chris_film** » Thu May 13, 2004 3:49 am

i thought it was very good. but, like matt said, it would be better if the blood were darker

UFProductions · Post by **UFProductions** » Thu May 13, 2004 5:26 am

Wouldn't it suck to be one of those people that take a bullet or two to the head and survive? I mean yeah, your alive but, c'mon! Yer all mangled up, and the headache after would be unimaginable.

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Thu May 13, 2004 6:34 am

There's actually a story I heard, takes place in Vietnam. A soldier took a bullet in the head and there was blood everywhere. The medic was trying desperately to help the guy, and the surgeon came over and said, "forget it, he's gone." The head wound guy replied, "Hey! I'm still alive!" I bet that shocked the both of them.

NaziSentry · Post by **NaziSentry** » Thu May 13, 2004 7:16 am

My uncle told me of a guy that took a bullet to the NECK and it BOUNCED around the inside of his SKULL and came out the top of his HEAD!

Obviously the guy is dead, his brains got shot up!
BTW my uncles in the army.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » Thu May 13, 2004 11:05 am

Re the video I made above - I've had a look at it, it's very, very dark. I'm currently very busy at the moment, but I'll try to brighten it up a bit before I post the link here. Hopefully it'll be done by the end of the day. Sorry it's taken so long

(and as a quick disclaimer - we didn't spend much time making it perfect as it was a very quick test. Is we use this technique for our proper film, obviously we'd do it properly!).

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Thu May 13, 2004 9:02 pm

Eh it was ok :-/ i didnt even see a flash the blood didnt blend right, and the lack of denterlince made it hard to watch - better luck next time
Edit: i saw the flash after watching it again, looks pretty good i guess the blood needs to be better

jordanlacey · Post by **jordanlacey** » Thu May 13, 2004 10:34 pm

Well, The De interlacing takes a cr** load of time to render! So until its actually a finished shot, I wont be waiting an hour to render a 10 sec clip.

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Fri May 14, 2004 12:03 am

wow .. you dont got a great computer do you? To render 10 sec takes me hmm 20 sec lol

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » Fri May 14, 2004 12:54 am

http://cerby.no-ip.com/~durandal/MeShootsMe2.avi (about 2meg)

There it is. I do warn you now though...

It was filmed on my Sony P72 digicam, in a dark room, so the quality is awful. Especially as I had to manually whack up the brightness later.

Also, please excuse the rather horrific 'merging line' (shadow problem) in the middle - it was a very quick test shot! But we can sort out proper lighting, positioning and editing properly for our final film. We made this simply to see if it could be done at all - and we've proved that (in some form) it can be.

That is all

.

(runs and hides)

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Fri May 14, 2004 12:58 am

Downloading it now.. and wow is it taking forever! I have cable to
Edit:
Okay, saw it looks ok.. but since when does the whole room flash blueish when a gun is shot?(just to be relasitic) get rid of that add a gunshot sound, i think itll be pretty good muic playing was werid, but this has nothing to do with music

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:05 am

I think that sound is actually me collapsing on the bed! (Edit - misread post).

[edit] We actually did add a gunshot sound, but for some reason that wasn't included in the final render... [/edit]

Obviously like I said it was a quick and dirty play that spawned that video, so it's not refined in any way shape or form. The flash was actually produced using another digicam, pic taken at the time of trigger pull. That's why it's bluish. Obviously something to (in?)consider for the final film.

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:08 am

Oooooohh .. so you didnt mean it to be blueish bright like that? Otherwise your muzzle flash is the right size pretty much postinted right, and not showed to long or to short, if that blue wasnt there i think it would be pretty much really good! i think the darkness actually helps add a sort of mood to the clip

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:14 am

Not blue, no. Maybe what we could do is put a filter over that single (set of) frame(s) to change the colour to amber or something...

It was a test for the end of a certain dream sequence in our film, so actually we weren't sure whether to add a gunshot sound or not. Obviously the music's wrong for the final sequence, but hey, we feel it adds to this clip

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I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:16 am

Well, you dont need the room to light up at all, i mean think about if you were to shoot a real gun at someone in a room, would the whole room light up like that? Otherwise, looks good

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:19 am

I honestly wouldn't know

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My knowledge of what 'real' gunfire looks like comes from the movies! Although I admit it is a little bright, but for the film we won't be having gunfights and like like in such small rooms (hopefully).

Thanks for your comments

. (anyway, bedtime for me!)

I3lade203 · Post by **I3lade203** » Fri May 14, 2004 1:21 am

Well, for a dramtiac shot i guess it works, for gunfights dont do that just have the muzzle

pan-modo_pictures · Post by **pan-modo_pictures** » Fri May 14, 2004 2:13 pm

Pretty good, a little hard to see, and I was not listening to it with sound, but other than that it looked good. I liked how it flashed like that too, but not the blue colour.

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