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Post by britishbulldog »

ok heres what i would do, set it a bit further in the future say 15 to 20 years

turkey has joined the E.U. giving 90 million muslims free reign accross europe, joining the already sizeable muslim minoritys in all E.U. countries

the numbers of muslims in european countries means they gain alot of political power failry quickly

the majority of people living under their oppressive socialist regimes cant fight back (due to the liberal establishment and media promoting multiculuralism and branding anyone who disagrees as racist, combined with harsh laws on religious and so called racial hatred)

sharia law is brought into affect in the E.U. (after islamic parties gain sizeable majoritys in all countries except the UK which is the only country that resists and regains its independance after its withdrawal from the E.U.

which prompts the Islamic world to invade Britain

thats the most feasible story line if you ask me and they can still be whatever colour as im guessing most europeans in this situation would be forcibly converted to islam

this isn't just my imagination its happening now (be warned)
or using my idea make a movie about it, high lighting the threat

p.s. Israel has the 4th largest military in the world and before them it was Iraq
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its a wicked idea, i just think its a bit too political for us, we only want like a 1-2min narration introduction to set the scene

this idea all came about because we got ace footage a a police helicopter taking off and hovering------ you'll see, its kind of escalted from then on, but its cool, thanks anyway
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Post by Lawriejaffa »

Serbs!!!??! lol

Look! Just read something relating to history and geopolitics of the present and you'll get an idea lol! CtBullet are u picking these countries out of a hat!!!
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not actually, i just watched behind enemy lines and they looked like a gd enemy
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haha this has gone WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY Off-topic!

whatever happened to a bit a poetic liscence and suspended belief?!
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screw that...you don't know the whole story
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I'm not so sure about that... But anyways.. we are peacful... thats why it's called Defence force...
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Dude, Israel invented the UZI and the M16 and the FireBall smart mortar with pinpoint accuracy guided by GPS and laser-homing modes for a single-shot target kill in urban warfare.

Don't underemine such an incredible country.
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Post by Firestorm »

The good thing is they're getting better.

The most noticable problems were:

- Sound effects needed
- Little kid on a trampoline??
- The pole seems to come out of nowhere in the first cut
- ...which was also delayed. You get punched, and then suddenly you have a pole and you're whacking her while she stands there.
- Her punching you several times wasn't very convincing
- Your... wall run? wasn't very convincing either


But yes the most noticable good part was stabbing her with the pole, the faked resistence looked right. A little blood on the pole and it'd look nice and grusome.
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Vamp wrote:Dude, Israel invented the UZI and the M16 and the FireBall smart mortar with pinpoint accuracy guided by GPS and laser-homing modes for a single-shot target kill in urban warfare.

Don't underemine such an incredible country.
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The M16 to? didn't know that one...
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Post by britishbulldog »

yay go Israel, got to admire their courage surrounded by all those arab countries who want to kill all the jews

just remember who gave you your country (Britain)
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britishbulldog wrote:just remember who gave you your country (Britain)
Please don't mis-interpret this as a confrontational statement but Great Britain played a signifigant role in surpressing Jews following the Second World War. They prevented thousands of Europen Jews from emmigrating to Palestine, going so far as to establish fenced in, guarded camps on Cypres to hold these people until they could find a place to put them. The creation if Israel was essentialy the last thing the British wanted. Not to say their intentions were bad or corrupt, perhaps mis-guided is a better term. Read "Exodus" by Leon Uris, despite some anti-Arab sentiment it does a very good job detailing the birth of the Jewish state while remaining a highly entertaining novel.
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not actually, i just watched behind enemy lines and they looked like a gd enemy
You must be kidding right? Look if your film idea is just a total joke then thats cool, otherwise if ur just watching a s*** movie like behind enemy lines, and using that for your research then haha,

As for 'underestimating Israel' i don't think anyone with intelligence would be accused of that, in saying it is impossible that they could invade Britain.... lol - as for them inventing the m16!?!?! whaaat? lol and a fancy mortar with 'pinpoint accuracy... *ahem*

There are some guys in this forum who try to read up on what they are talking about when they make stories involving politics and war, some are maybe idealistic, others ideological... but it takes just a few ct-bullet to take their lessons from bruckheimer vehicles....

As for the creation of Israel well, like any country, its birth comes as a result of brutal politics and usually violence, (with romantic stories of oppression and freedom) designed to lift the hearts of those with empty heads...
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thank you lawiejaffa for a very cynical outburst on the birth of nations (although I do tend to agree with you of the 'romatisizing'(?) of history)

I have to agree with UFP, I have done (although limited) research into Israeli independance, and have to say that britain, whilst not all the way through to anti-semitic, was anti-zionist and pro arab, this is due to a mix between the support Arabs gave the English against the Ottoman empire in WW1 (although Jewish-pPalestinians fought on the allied side as well) and the work of militant zionists (and their American supporters). I have to say I enjoyed the film as well as the book, and it is one of the few perfect book to film adaptations (in my opinion)
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Ya well Ct Bullet, asks for who a good occupying force of Britain would be,

Based on the current political climate, almost any country would be unbelievable... as an invader of Britain. For Britain to be occupied, its 'allies' would have to be already beaten (cos nobody is really gonna believe that europe and / or the USA would invade Britain lol, so basically the only thing i bleieve would be barely concievable would be some kind of triparte of China, Russia, and a number of oil producing nations... such as Iran for example. This would make the 'occupying' force likely to be Russian...

A scenerio that would only occur through the most bizarre of circumstances lol

PS - ZombieKrieg, i accept my statement is cynical, but u see how naively nerdy some of the flagwavers here... and believe it or not they are producing films in the hope (well... some of them) in the hope of being artists... (that is gentleman a word some people associate with filmmakers...)
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Uh people, get over it, there was a war between the countries and they were wrong, who care, BACK ON TRACK!
Yes pinnacle is bad editing software because it even takes a while to freakin split a clip, how horrible, honestly?
The reason the staff seemed to come out of no where is because it wasnt in shot.
Yeah it was just goin to be a 5 second test of me stabbing melissa, but we chose to make more of it.
The little kid in the background was not ment to be there but could have been put into the movie somehow, like seeing as im an evil f***, i shoot her (im not that evil in reality).
Yeah, my camera is really annoying, i try and go like 1 meter away from the shot, and it will look like its 30cm away, and thats as low zoom as possible. I need to get a wide angle lens. Its hard to get the right angles when u have to go so far away.
As i said, i will try more gretty and gory fight scenes when i can.
The wall run was real but i wanted to use difforent angles and u didnt see the run upto it and run on the fence.
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Post by Save »

I care... If this thing wouldn't of happened... I wouldn't be here writing this words...
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I dont care make a new forum for the war s***.
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Lawriejaffa wrote:Its a total joke! lol its ridiculous! Its more hilarious than anything to speculate that Israel could even remotely consider in a hypothetical situation grounded in any sense of possible reality that Israel could occupy Britain...
You are clearly a twat.
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Post by Lawriejaffa »

go cry to momma panicfilms... i dont have time to humour you :)
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Pinacle isn't cr**, i've used it on a number of occasions and splitting clips etc is simple. Work on what you've got, prem pro 2 won't make your films better, trust me.

On to the war thing; it's very hard to think what would/ could happen (have found that out with my nazi occupation of WW2 thing), but it needs to be plausable more than it's possible. Anyone could invade anywhere IF you have a good backstory, remember it's fiction in the end.
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Lawriejaffa wrote:go cry to momma panicfilms... i dont have time to humour you :)
You dont have time to humour me? Stop being such a pompous arsehole.

How dare you be so critical considering the drivvel that you produce.

Try reading my review of your geopolitical garbage.

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That was pretty cool. A little more work on the editing would have been good. I liked the little girl on the trampoline, hope that was intentional. I went on your site too and had the same question as britishbulldog, what the hell was the israeli army doing in England? GOd save the queen, or, where I come from, Bush. (Ech!)
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You dont have time to humour me? Stop being such a pompous arsehole.
Boohoo panicfilms, look kiddo go cry if u want... go make a fuss if u want... but guess what - don't care, can't care... got better things to do than b**ch with a kid ;) have a nice day lol
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