FREEDOM FIGHTERS Teaser Trailer

[ctbullet]

The much awaited Freedom Fighters Teaser Trailer is now online

Enjoy!

http://wolfvisionp.tripod.com/

[Bocca]

lookin good, even if there is some arguments about the plot atm lol.

the assault gear and guns look really realistic. Where'd you get the assault wifle thing and the SMG looking thing? *very specific*

and on a random note, what did u use to make ur mine effect?

[ctbullet]

we had

2M4s
1P90
1Ak47
1 Glock 36
1 Uzi
1 Desert Eagle
2 PLCE
1 Flak Jacket
4 Combat Trousers
4 Smocks
3 Assault Boots
1 Police Helicopter with jet engine

oh yeh, and for the plot we had decided to use Serbs, we got all the equipment from t'internet and i'm an air cadet so got most of it issued


as for the mine effect it the good of Speilberg pivot method, still working on more dirt like yours

[Lawriejaffa]

Well you know what i think of your premise already, and serbs are even worse for so many reasons! (I did give u a more likely scenario in that poor guys staff fight thread!!?)

Anyway the trailer actually too bad, but the FX occurs at times when their not really firing (gun blasts) um, it kinda look's okay-ish. Some of those weapons i think are very obviously toys/mini 3/4 scale versions? Um... and the shot of the helicopter?!?! (is this film built around this shot uve got of a random helicopter?!?)

The choice of music, and the premise combined does make your film kinda 'hollywood propoganda'-ish, its also making me think 'Red Dawn' (which no doubt gyro will remake...)

But you know ive got some spare time this wk, so if u like i could maybe help u with ur script a little if u would like it!

Good luck with the next stage of filming

[ctbullet]

we have completed filming already, well of the first episode

the story is possible, any country could just walk into another as there are no beach defenses or anything

"anyway the trailer actually too bad"... eh?

the film was originally based around the helicopter footage which we were very lucky to capture,

the main idea of this film is to entertain, everyone who has seen it has been entertained, that is our job... but thanks for the script help offer

[Lawriejaffa]

Ooops typo! I meant its not that bad the trailer!

And no, the story isnt thaaat possible But lets just agree to disagree on that one (cos that whole debate i think is offtopic)

[ctbullet]

ok, we'll agree to disagree, other than the current plot, the trailers good right, thanks

[Lawriejaffa]

Yeah its not bad (i mean sorry for the lack of detailed analysis) the issues for u remain the same to some extent ie. youthful actors and props and costuming (good & bad) tho its better here than what uve done usually.

You and ur bro (or buddy) who always appear together - theres like way too many of ur films when u 2 boyos come into a frame lol its like a hideous trademark u want to get rid off! Make it 3! Make it as many as u can

And so your short film how long will it be? or is this trailer it?

[ctbullet]

actually, we drafted in 4 guys this time!!

and could you pull off acting as a teenger, i don't think so, that is why the story works, it is supposed to be teengers

the movie will be 10mins plus.....and its a teaser trailer, not the entire thing, arghh, little faith

and the guy looks jewish, he aint my bro, lol

[Lawriejaffa]

lol thats the trouble of making films u know ctbullet... getting good teenagers *ahem*

The story can work if you establish enough and without any doubt, that the reason there are teenagers is because its so utterly and amazingly intrinsic to the plot. Even cheesefest Red Dawn had to have our characters start at a highschool to make that clear... What will your film do?

Likewise the eviiiiiil enemy, in this case the Jews! *ahem* Israeli's i mean, they too would not be teenagers would they... i mean the army wouldnt be that desperate... so in their case teenagers wouldn't work!

Hell if you got one older guy, like ur dad for example, get him to play the father or 'guardian' of sorts for these kids, u know, the father figure, again it will establish a contrast that plays positively for you, as then the audience will see old and young, and not just your teen mates as the heroes!

In your soft pinkish heart you know it makes sense!

[ctbullet]

you really don't understand do you


ever heard of an 'original' storyline!!

they don't always have to be old russians geezers like in your films- not to get too personal

[DEDFX]

The AK looked too small, the muzzle flashes were strange (when showing muzzle flashes in slow motion still make them quick on screen)

Other than that
The cinematography, the angles and other guns looked great.

[DEDFX]

The AK looked too small, the muzzle flashes were strange (when showing muzzle flashes in slow motion still make them quick on screen)

Other than that
The cinematography, the angles and other guns looked great, Good Job.

[ctbullet]

cheers bud,
the Ak is small,

its is probably 3/4 scale and cost us £1, just one of those guns we thought was needed to change the characters

but thanks for the comments on cinematography!

[Lawriejaffa]

lol the guys that played russians in my movie were only in their early 20s man! I made em look older just by forcing them to eat haggis rolls at a dangerous bakery nearby...

And no... having cr** production values is not the same as having an original story ct-bullet, don't think u can convince and audience that the kids enemies just happen to be kids too, cos ur being avante guard

Here even of the top of my head (not saying this is great)

but structurally, if these kids were getting lookd after by a father figure, he gets killed by russians, they take revenge, become involved in the cause, forced to suffer experiences they didnt expect, conflict, they surmount it, teens dealing with violence and the consequences of 'adult war' is a deep and engaging prospect.

If you spent as much time improving things as u did justifying the poor elements, u could improve ur films quicker! and they are getting better imo mate;)

[Gyro]

Lawriejaffa's got a point Ctbullet, from what was seen in the trailer, it seems as though these two kids are very out of place. Thinking about the scenario logically would prove that the entire country of Britain wouldn't depend on these two kids to fend off the entire Russian army. But, not to be a hypocrite, I've made films where too young of actors have played the roles of adults. If that's the only possible case and situation you have, atleast dress them up as adults. Possibly a suit? If they're in the military, get the right gear. Maybe, as Lawriejaffa suggested try altering the story a tiny bit to get the point across that you need to establish the younger actors as the main characters without us (the viewers) seeing them as out of place.

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Likewise the eviiiiiil enemy, in this case the Jews! *ahem* Israeli's i mean, they too would not be teenagers would they... i mean the army wouldnt be that desperate... so in their case teenagers wouldn't work!

You better be kidding.. ..
We are on the Good side... We don't brainwas a poor man into suiciding in a crowd and kill children... We have apachis.. Well.. We try not to kill Innocents ...
By the way MR. Antisemic... Half of holywood is being run by jews...

[ZombieKrieg2005]

Lawriejaffa's got a point Ctbullet, from what was seen in the trailer, it seems as though these two kids are very out of place. Thinking about the scenario logically would prove that the entire country of Britain wouldn't depend on these two kids to fend off the entire Russian army. But, not to be a hypocrite, I've made films where too young of actors have played the roles of adults. If that's the only possible case and situation you have, atleast dress them up as adults. Possibly a suit? If they're in the military, get the right gear. Maybe, as Lawriejaffa suggested try altering the story a tiny bit to get the point across that you need to establish the younger actors as the main characters without us (the viewers) seeing them as out of place.

Tell that to the makers of Red Dawn... as far as I can tell, the reason the kids are fighting is because they are rebelling against the occupying powers where the adults have given up. Its similar to 40's occupied france with many of the resistance being young teens to early twenties. That said I think an older figure may be needed to give contrast.

In terms of the armies, if you assume that the UK is occupied by whichever force, the chances are the war will not be over and therefore the best troops will not be in the garrisons, they will be on the frontlines, so having young conscriptsare is a plausable idea

[Lawriejaffa]

Well its all to do with 'representation' isnt ZombieKrieg as ya know, if the kids can be legitimised in the narrative (with my example of doing that just of many ctbullet could explore) then it can word. Bear in mind the makers of Red Dawn did legitimise it (i mean when i say legtimise, that the audience didnt question it).

[ctbullet]

yes.....i don't know why you guys think we're kids, we're young men , 17yr old, i don't really understand why you're b*tching about my 'trailer' at the moment, it is only a teaser, you can't determine what the outcome of the film is going to be at all, i think you're being too judgemental from previous posts and give me the benefit of the doubt that if i do it my way it will turn out to be an entertaining picture

as for the story, if i asked my dad to be in the film, he'd tell me to pi$$ off, lol

you're saying i should look into the story more, and empahaisis a cause, who needs a cause, it's just war! all soldiers, especially in WW2 ranged from 14-20, my age range of actors, i also think that we have to work with what we've got to make it good, we don't all have £5m budgets

[Lawriejaffa]

why you guys think we're kids, we're young men

Well, its cos u guys look like kids, so it has to be legitimised by an audiences 'reality test' if they are to believe the story.

i don't really understand why you're b*tching about my 'trailer' at the moment

Your work is posted to be judged, but hopefully in a constructive manner! Some do go 'out' to get peoples work, but dude, the trick is if they give opinions that they think will improve (lol relevant ones.) Your getting that, nobody is trying to b**ch about your work

Its not easy as a teen to get old guys to believe your doing something proper, but i bet u can convince someone! Amatuer drama groups have old duffers who might be sympathetic. (parents are always sympathetic if u look sad enuf lol)

Regarding the 'cause' yeah thats very important, thats the motivation for your characters, and for the story, its also why the audience might care whether or not your warriors succeed.

Remember this... your making the film for the audience too (arent you?) not just so u and ur mates can watch urselves play warporn!

[ctbullet]

warporn woo, alright, i'll have a think, thanks

[Lawriejaffa]

good lad