Shooting Myself

Post by **Matt** » Sun May 18, 2003 6:20 pm

Nothing better than shooting yourself in the stomach !

sfx_shooting_myself.wmv

except may be emptying a magazine of ammo down the stairs ...

sfx_ak47_firing.wmv

[Edited on 18-5-2003 by Matt]

Mushiman · Post by **Mushiman** » Sun May 18, 2003 7:22 pm

Good stuff.

Nice compression

insert_coin · Post by **insert_coin** » Sun May 18, 2003 8:22 pm

ahh dude not alamdv! *shakes head*

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Sun May 18, 2003 8:46 pm

pretty sweet

Post by **Matt** » Sun May 18, 2003 8:48 pm

Not AlamDV ... Premiere ... but may have 'borrowed' the effects from AlamDV

insert_coin · Post by **insert_coin** » Sun May 18, 2003 8:50 pm

PHEW thats ok then rock on!!
just need to find us all some cool images... its pretty hard too! i tried to find like a reference picture for a bullet... type bullet in and what do u get? little animated gifs of balls and cr** hahah!

EDIT: oh i forgot to say, the shooting yourself one is hillarious... you come out and then the other you shoots you and you are all like f*** you and you are on the floor saying "ill get you!, you... ME!"
and then i look like a fool... but it is funny how dissapointed you look when you get shot

[Edited on 18-5-2003 by insert_coin]

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Sun May 18, 2003 9:44 pm

The one of you that shoots gets a look that says "Oh s***..."

Adam · Post by **Adam** » Sun May 18, 2003 10:07 pm

sfx_ak47_firing.wmv

have you noticed the attack of one of your cats ?

Post by **Matt** » Sun May 18, 2003 11:23 pm

I noticed. No one else has yet. Well spotted

Sort of spoils the AK action once you notice the paw ....

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Sun May 18, 2003 11:26 pm

Ha ha ha!!! Yeah it's like he's crying out for you to stop shooting him.

Post by **Matt** » Sun May 18, 2003 11:59 pm

In reality he wanted food ... having only been fed 5 minutes before. To teach him a lesson I gave him a full mag of 7.62mm ...

It was fairly stressful shooting myself, having only ever shot other people before

slimdog55 · Post by **slimdog55** » Mon May 19, 2003 1:31 am

I was woundering what that was.

BrownCowStudios · Post by **BrownCowStudios** » Mon May 19, 2003 4:31 am

Alright, the shooting yourself, that was just random. Needed blood effects and whatnot. Then, the one of you firing the AK47, well... First off, the kickback: I barely saw any. AK47's have insane kickback, so to have none is completely unrealistic. Now, for the muzzle flash. That would be much much bigger than it was. It would also slightly change shape, not continuously be an exact duplication. Just my tips. I know this was probably a test... and a random one at that, but it could still be improved upon.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:13 am

I like the extended mag on the AK47. Very cool. I agree with the flashes changing shape more and the kick being greater.

But i love it!!!!!!

Post by **Matt** » Mon May 19, 2003 12:56 pm

Noted the points about the kickback.

It was a test but when I do it for real I'll alter the shape of the muzzle flash. Maybe 4-5 different shapes randomly used? I used one frame of flash every other frame of footage.

Number of rounds per magazine wasn't something I bothered with as you may have noticed

Oh and when I actually film the real footage I'll make sure there are no cats around.

hanasand · Post by **hanasand** » Mon May 19, 2003 1:23 pm

I liked the flow of used "bullets" (what the hell are they called) that came out of the gun..

BrownCowStudios · Post by **BrownCowStudios** » Mon May 19, 2003 9:03 pm

Bullet casings, shells, etc.

hanasand · Post by **hanasand** » Mon May 19, 2003 9:43 pm

That's the word. Shells.. Damn english

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Tue May 20, 2003 12:05 pm

I apologise on behalf of my nations language...

Keep the cat in the film!!!

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Tue May 20, 2003 12:48 pm

How can you extend the shells to fall all the way down and not just disapear in mid air?

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Tue May 20, 2003 1:44 pm

The only problem I noticed with the AK video is that the muzzle flash is always in the same exact spot, no matter where the barrel is. I know this was just a test to make sure all this stuff works, but, It was reakky noticeable to me. Aside from that, it was pretty awesome. Good work!:)

[Edited on 20-5-2003 by 2nd_Recon]

Post by **Matt** » Wed May 21, 2003 1:49 pm

Fair point. Because I used a muzzle flash every 2 frames for 10 seconds there were lots of them! Not sure if there would be an easy way to keep them inline with the barrel other than position each one by hand.

If I used this sort of effect for real it would only be seen for a few seconds so I suppose there would only be 25-40 frames to position. Which isn't too bad if you want it to look good.

I would also aim to use a number of slightly different shaped flashes rather than just use the same one repeatedly.

I used Premiere's motion settings to position and size the muzzle flash which was just a static jpeg image.

hanasand · Post by **hanasand** » Wed May 21, 2003 3:14 pm

Premieres motion settings is TERRIBLE to place anything accurate with. Can't blame you for just leaving it on the same spot..

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Wed May 21, 2003 6:29 pm

Yeah that's my main annoyance with Premiere, the preview windows are soooooo small!

Post by **Matt** » Wed May 21, 2003 6:31 pm

I tend to use the co-ordinate numbers to make sure the motion points are in the same place ... but that isn't much help. It always puzzled me and Adam why the hell Adobe didn't make those preview windows a decent size. At least give you the option of making them bigger.