Melanie C / Radiohead Video's

MarkA87 · Post by **MarkA87** » Fri May 23, 2003 12:25 am

Has anyone seen a video to Melanie C's new song - I don't know what the song's called. - Probably only UK people will have seen it. - It features her frozen in mid-air and she walks around the frozen 'her' - then jumps into the frozen 'her' and time returns to normal. Does anyone know how this would be done? - Also if anyone has seen Radiohead's - There There video - I would like to know how that's done - a man walks around in a very quirky way - I read someone this could've been done by recording in 1/3 time - what does that mean?

Post by **Matt** » Fri May 23, 2003 4:14 pm

I would assume that "1/3 time" is where you throw away 2 frames record 1 frame. This would give you a jerky effect. If you filmed someone walking they would start to look very strange.

MarkA87 · Post by **MarkA87** » Fri May 23, 2003 4:23 pm

Ah rite - yes that's probably what it means - thanx. I'm still stuck about how the Melanie C video was done - I'll try and find out the name of the song...

BTW - here's the video to There There - http://capitolrecords.com/radiohead/player/ - Choose your speed then click on video at the bottom - the high bandwidth one is about 10Mbs.

[Edited on 23-5-2003 by MarkA87]

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Sat May 24, 2003 1:24 pm

The Mel C trick is extremely easy to do.

Basically they film her walking along and jumping and what not... Then they choose a good frame that would look good as a still.

They then cut around her in the still image and super impose it on top of the footage of her moving.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense! I'll have to use diagrams if you're still puzzled

MarkA87 · Post by **MarkA87** » Sat May 24, 2003 5:01 pm

Thanx Ornsack I think I get it now - How would they do it so she jumped EXACTLY into the frozen image? Would you be able to show me diagrams? Don't worry if you can't!

Found the vid is called On The Horizon - Video Click Here.

[Edited on 24-5-2003 by MarkA87]

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Sat May 24, 2003 11:37 pm

No remember it's done in POST production, meaning it's done after they filmed it.

For example, they have 25 frames of Mel C jumping they'd cut her out of frame 25 and paste her position from frame 25 on top of frames 1 to 24.

If I have time, and feel like posting videos of me jumping around like an arsehole I'll give it a go myself tomorrow

MarkA87 · Post by **MarkA87** » Sat May 24, 2003 11:38 pm

Oh yes - thanx I get exactly how it's done now! It's a pretty kool effect.. I just need to wait for a new dv video camera to try it lol!

It wud b kewl 2 c how (if you do) do yours as you said! Lookin forward 2 c how it turns out.

[Edited on 24-5-2003 by MarkA87]

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Sun May 25, 2003 6:58 pm

Here ya go - Mel C example

Get it quick, I'll be taking it down in a couple of days.

I used a clip from Chemical Ali to do it with

MarkA87 · Post by **MarkA87** » Sun May 25, 2003 7:17 pm

Wow it looks pretty sweet! cheers for doing that! Maybe it would be good if a bit of transarency was added to the frozen frame - I'm not sure - but I think they do that in the vid?

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Sun May 25, 2003 7:44 pm

Do they? I've only seen it once! Personally I think Emma Bunton's video is better for numerous reasons

MarkA87 · Post by **MarkA87** » Sun May 25, 2003 8:01 pm

Oh no soz i saw the video again and she isnt transparent

. lol. I don't like the song but I just thought it was a good effect! Yes.. emma bunton...

What did you use to do the Mel C effect - Premiere? I don't have it installed at the moment - waiting for new computer - but could you go through roughly how you did it? Thanx

[Edited on 25-5-2003 by MarkA87]

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Mon May 26, 2003 6:50 pm

I'll try and get some diagrams online... I can never explain anything properly

MarkA87 · Post by **MarkA87** » Mon May 26, 2003 8:12 pm

Kool thanx

hanasand · Post by **hanasand** » Tue May 27, 2003 4:18 pm

That effect used in the Mel C video is really quite poorly done. I've just seen it and i thought it sucked a**! They had cut out the water wrongly and I remember seeing the edges of the keyed away color and the camera moved a bit (still on a tripod) but the frozen frame didn't so it looked awkward..

Adam · Post by **Adam** » Wed May 28, 2003 1:04 pm

Originally posted by Ornsack
Here ya go - Mel C example

Get it quick, I'll be taking it down in a couple of days.

I used a clip from Chemical Ali to do it with

I know it is a quick test but I wonder if your layers are ordered correctly. I think the moving footage should be layered ontop, you disappear behind the still image.

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Wed May 28, 2003 8:22 pm

From what I've seen, Mel C always jumps behind the still image. So neh-neh!

Plus it would have meant having to cut out several frames of me moving to give me a composite alphamap, and I was barely arsed to do that last test! :p