I need to shoot myself!

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 1:09 am

Okay, as I mentioned when I needed to hang myself, I now need to shoot myself. I already have a great system designed for this, which I'll post up in the tutorials, but I want some feedback first on how the effect should look, rather than how you'd do it.

This is what the effect is going to mimic:

- I intend on shooting myself in the head at a distance of about 2".

- As the gun shoots, there will be an instanteneous mark at the front of my head where the bullet enters my skull.

- At the same time (Well at the speed of a bullet), shrapnel of brain and skull as well as blood is ejected from the back of my head as the bullet exits.

- Perhaps to top the effect off, and if the shot is at the right angle, a pint-glass full of beer could get hit by the stray bullet.

- I drop to the table, dead and lifeless!

The camera sees this from the front - almost like someone sitting opposite me.

When I have mastered this and put up the tutorial, I'm going to try this in the cafe to wind up the guys in there! HA HA HA!

Okay, over to you lot. Would you change the effect, and why? How should the exiting blood and brains look when it's coming out? Does it squirt out, Spurt out, or trickle out?

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:17 am

the brain matter from the exit wound would be very messy!, the entry wound may only have very little bleeding if any. So explain a little more how this effect will be done

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:14 am

Make a backblaster! You use compressed air tank, hose, and a funnel. You fill the hose with fake blood, stuff dyed red sponge in the funnel, and strap it to the back of your head. This is an actual hollywood used method for head shots! However, do Not let the hose get away from you, or else you can get injured. This concept was designed to produce the most effective way of splattering anything behind it with the fake blood and brains (sponge).

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 5:34 am

there is very little blood at the entry wound, but the exit wound would blast out. the best lookign way is with one huge blast of gore.

Epsilon · Post by **Epsilon** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:50 am

Good example: Bathroom scene in Full Metal Jacket.

They used a backblaster for that shot.

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Sat Dec 20, 2003 3:00 pm

Okay, so looks like I've got the right idea so far. The front wound has a small amount of blood, the rear wound is well messy!

The system I'm designing works on compressed air, but I'm trying to develop something that's portable, and instantaneous! Like something you could walk around with! I'm using a toy cap gun (Detective Special), which is being modified! It's going to be a teriffic effect having front and rear bullet damage, and definetly a great one for laughs - Good party trick! Like since when does a cap gun put a hole through someone's head! LOL!

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:50 am

are you shooting yourself for the same reason as in the "I need to hang myself" thread?

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:09 am

Probably, and why would you kill an inosant pint of beer you monster!

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:06 am

Yes, it's for a different sketch involving the same bad comedian! In fact I'm trying to come up with other "This guy is so bad I have to kill myself" jokes. One sketch will pan around to see a family of skeletons sitting at a table! LOL!

No real beer will be harmed in the making of the show! We will use frothy tea instead, with a dash of lemonade for the fizz!

iamnothing · Post by **iamnothing** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:34 pm

Beer is for drinking, not shooting.

Unless you're doing shooters, but...I lost my concentration. I think I need a beer.

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:50 pm

You look too young for beer iamnothing! LOL!

Kolorion · Post by **Kolorion** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 5:39 am

Stop killing your self man, anyway, would like to see this when it is finished :

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 11:11 am

Working on the trick gun as we speak! I'll post a clip showing how it works, but for the real thing, you'll have to wait until much later next year.

Famous · Post by **Famous** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:53 am

Depending on your pers0onal stile on how your gun is shot if you are going to use a real gun forget it you will kill yourself .
My opinion.
TOO DANGEROUS
Famous

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:34 pm

I'm not interested on the gun details on this thread, but how the effect should look, as if it was a real gun shooting a hole through my head!

Besides, why would anyone be stupid enough to use a real gun Famous? That's pretty dumb!

I already have the mechanics for the effect worked out, I want help on what look the result should give, not on how to do it.

I'm doing a live test of this at a local Cafe on April Fool's Day! They cafe owners don't know about it (They're good friends), the trick is on them! I'm very aware of laws regarding waving imitation firearms in public in the UK now. Some of my friends will be going in the cafe first (pretending they are regular customers), they will be helping to calm the atmosphere when the cafe owners realise it's a joke! Also, we hope to get this on film, and I will post it immediately after April 1st!

We will be doing this when there is no "general public" customers in the cafe. One person will stand outside just in case someone walks in half-way through the scene and decides to call the police! Yes, it's probably a bit fooloish, but it's April Fool's, and has to be done!

- Don't try this yourselves, unless you really know the people you're doing the prank to, very well, and know they can take a joke. Some people don't have much of a sense of humour, and can get agressive when theor emotions are played with to this level.
- Make sure you have sufficient backup. If there is adverse over-reaction from the prank victims, you will need help to calm them down.
- We are using toy guns and firing off a few caps first. The effect is to confuse our prank victims, then to shock them, then to make them feel relieved that it's not real
- If we were using imitation firearms, the cafe owners would be anxious, and create the wrong atmosphere.
- We know where the phone is in the cafe, and will have someone standing by it to prvent useage, should one of the staff decide to dial the police immediately!
- We don't want to police involved, it would mean answering lots of embarassing questions, and there issues regarding imitation firearms we want to avoid! Yes, toy cap guns fall under this!

Raptor · Post by **Raptor** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:42 pm

He he he a couple other safety considerations maybe??
Make sure no one has a weak heart..

This may be safe in the UK, but stateside, I'd worry about someone on the cafe staff packing and pulling his weapon and firing. ALthough I rarely carry now, I still have a concealed carry permit for bothe my .380 and .25. The 25 slips inside a little belt holster and you don't even feel it's on, let alone see it.

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:14 pm

I thought about the weak heart bit - The owner and his brother are both sound, and the waitress is going to be tipped off beforehand! LOL!

Although gun crime is on the increase here, people just generally don't have them. In this one-horse town, there's barely any trouble, so it would be extremely surprising, in more ways than 1! At least I wouldn't be the one getting shot, seeing that I had just bee shot moments before! HA HA HA!

I do have a license to carry offensive weapone in public, but my license doesn't cover firearms, and the condition of me carrying the weapons is strictly taking them to and from a place of practise.

It'll be a great prank though! I can't wait! Yep, going over the top again once more! You know, they call me the King Of Overkill here! I don't know if that's a good of a bad thing!