Canon HV-20

DEDFX · Post by **DEDFX** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:33 pm

I've been looking for a new camera for a year now and have found the Canon HV-20, does anyone know if this is a good choice for $1,000?

Almondo99 · Post by **Almondo99** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:47 pm

Been looking into this camera for a long time, and have heard nothing but good things about it. For $1,100 you get true 24fps so I would say it is defenitely a good choice. Wish I had the money for it...

DEDFX · Post by **DEDFX** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:35 pm

There's also many people comparing it to the HC-7, making me not know what to get, does anyone know which whould be the better buy?

Knightly · Post by **Knightly** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:06 pm

it's a brilliant camera...they have footage up on www.dvinfo.net from this camera...raw footage in M2T format...it's big, but you'll get to see how purty it is.

Almondo99 · Post by **Almondo99** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:16 pm

I would say the HV20 is better than the Sony's, www.camcorderinfo.com
has a lot of reviews, of the HC7 and the HV20.

DEDFX · Post by **DEDFX** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:30 pm

There's been some flack on the moving shutter, this is the only thing that's driving me away from it, doe you know what I'm talking about?

tecmeister · Post by **tecmeister** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:12 pm

25 frames per second you cant complain can you. But before you buy it if you do decide to read reviews.

Almondo99 · Post by **Almondo99** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:14 pm

It's 24 FPS isn't it?

Clarence · Post by **Clarence** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:28 pm

It's 25 for PAL versions, and 24 for NTSC.

I wouldn't get the HV20 over the HC7 based solely on 24p mode, though. Firstly, you have to have a software that can handle a 24p timeline/workflow. I also read that a lot of people are having problems with the 24p mode on the camera, doing the 3:2 pulldown to convert the footage to true 24p.

But still, it looks like a very nice camera.

tecmeister · Post by **tecmeister** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:29 pm

I read a review and i thought that it said 25 but i will check to make sure.

tecmeister · Post by **tecmeister** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:34 pm

This is the part of the review that i had read. i might have miss understood it coz im new to all this so sorry if i have.
Does it mean still shooting?

Cinema-style 25P shooting
Recording 1080/50i movies, the HV20 is CanonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s first HD camcorder designed for home moviemaking that also features switchable frame rates for videos with a truly cinematic touch. True 25P progressive shooting is possible using the HDV PF25 mode; dedicated CINE image mode also helps to reproduce the look and feel of film.

Knightly · Post by **Knightly** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:56 am

25p in the UK (PAL) it may still support 24P at the same time replacing the 30P option with 25P. Even if not, a 6% reduction in speed will produce a 24P piece and probably won't even be enough to tell the difference in the actor's voices.

tecmeister · Post by **tecmeister** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:18 am

Clarence wrote:It's 25 for PAL versions, and 24 for NTSC.

I wouldn't get the HV20 over the HC7 based solely on 24p mode, though. Firstly, you have to have a software that can handle a 24p timeline/workflow. I also read that a lot of people are having problems with the 24p mode on the camera, doing the 3:2 pulldown to convert the footage to true 24p.

But still, it looks like a very nice camera.

Clarence talking about what you said about some software having a problem with 24p camcorder and reading them, and will have to find one that will read it.
What is the ideal speed of the frame rate that software will not have any problem with, but the quality is still good.

DEDFX · Post by **DEDFX** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:49 am

Yeah, I'm using FCP5 which I'm pretty sure will work with it. The "running shutter" is barely visible unless you put the camera on something that vibrates, and the 1/2.7 CMOS sensor is said to be like 3 CCD's.

Magic-Man · Post by **Magic-Man** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:11 pm

I recently bought a hc3 and its great. My friend was going to buy the hv20, but due to lack of stock, he went ahead and bought a hc1, but hv20 and hc7 are both great cams.

Ornsack · Post by **Ornsack** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:05 pm

tecmeister wrote:
Clarence wrote:It's 25 for PAL versions, and 24 for NTSC.

I wouldn't get the HV20 over the HC7 based solely on 24p mode, though. Firstly, you have to have a software that can handle a 24p timeline/workflow. I also read that a lot of people are having problems with the 24p mode on the camera, doing the 3:2 pulldown to convert the footage to true 24p.

But still, it looks like a very nice camera.
Clarence talking about what you said about some software having a problem with 24p camcorder and reading them, and will have to find one that will read it.
What is the ideal speed of the frame rate that software will not have any problem with, but the quality is still good.

Ignore the 24fps bit. You live in England and nothing is shown on TV at 24fps in the UK (it's sped up to meet our frame rates, i.e. 25fps)

So don't get confused when people talk about 24fps and 30fps. If you buy a camera in the uk it will be 25fps and probably nothing else so it's all good.

Zacatac927 · Post by **Zacatac927** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:03 pm

so DEDFX... final consensus? im in the market, as it were