Bullet Sqiggle

thewarmovie · Post by **thewarmovie** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 1:21 am

Hey you know the wiggle air spitting effect they do when people dodge bullets.
How do they do that, and is the a cheap porgram that can do it. I have Paintshop pro and adobe premire.

please help

Simon Rylance · Post by **Simon Rylance** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 2:02 am

i just make 3d bullets then make a big line of toruses(rings) and give them a white 99 or 98 or some transparency with a very small refraction, 0.01

http://www.geocities.com/simonfilms/spin.mpg
(save as)

the_hetster · Post by **the_hetster** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 8:19 pm

easiest way i found was using after effects. as long as the bullets either comming towards or going away from camera just use the ripple effect included in after effects it can look awesome in slow motion as well. you'll have to tinker with the ripple size and length their on screen for the effect to work properly but it does give a really good looking effect

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:54 pm

Now when has anyone actually seen a bullet doing that????

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:23 pm

better question when has anybody seen a bullet. But movie gunplay and real gun play are two diffrent things.

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 2:32 pm

Good point foxwood - So you could do anything that's a "bullet" effect, and folks would buy it!

grison · Post by **grison** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:30 pm

I cant believe there hasnt been any filmings of bullets leaving a gun.

I dunno whether the effect is similiar than that but I guess there is an effect in the air.

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 3:50 pm

Originally posted by grison
I cant believe there hasnt been any filmings of bullets leaving a gun.

I dunno whether the effect is similiar than that but I guess there is an effect in the air.

Yes, but do you actually see what the effect of the bullet on the air looks like? For all you know, it could just glow green for a split second!

grison · Post by **grison** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:26 pm

If you film with a super fast recording camera? (dunno what their actual name is)

Thousands of frames in a second?

[Edited on 21-7-2003 by grison]

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:48 pm

what you would see is a puff of cloud, and some sparks, not the standred movie flash, and you would see the bullet, come through the smoke, movieng it like somthing going at super sonic speed would. If their were ripples you don't see them.

2nd_Recon · Post by **2nd_Recon** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 6:22 pm

In the Matrix, the ripple affect was added for two reasons

REASON NUMERO UNO: Without it, you couldn't see the actual bullets, it would look like the character was doing the limbo for no reason

REASON NUMERO TWO-O: It looks cool

TommyPollock · Post by **TommyPollock** » Thu Jul 31, 2003 7:47 pm

The fact that bullets move fast is a very helpful thing in my view, especially for people with no way of getting footage onto a PC (me until Friday). It means you don't need to tie fishing line around a toy bullet and dangle it around like a spastic, you can just pretend its there.

Grant · Post by **Grant** » Fri Aug 01, 2003 4:32 am

Search for some videos or pics of actual bullets flying through the air or targets captured by the camera at incredible speeds and their is a displacement of air there. Can't be seen at true speed though with the naked eye

John Groshko · Post by **John Groshko** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 4:31 am

There is a whole video segment on stuff like that, on the "Bad Boys Special Edition DVD"

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 4:52 am

I was just watching DareDevil and though of this, they had bullets, with the squigle but was the sound, not the air, and I thought now that is where you would have the squigle.

Twabi2 · Post by **Twabi2** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:55 pm

there are indeed movies of bullets exiting a gun and:
-going trough an appel
-hitting the camera

you can actually see the bullet, but it's rather black/red/blurry...

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 3:06 pm

To see somewhat a bullet and the impact, on the coming on part of CSI they shoot an apple at slow motion. But the bullet is bully because its going so fast, that only the fastist camera will ever catch it.

El Brenty · Post by **El Brenty** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 3:14 pm

That is of course unless you're in an illusional environment such as The Matrix!

It seems that Hollywood is throwing anything at us, and we're just believing it cuz it looks good!

foxwood · Post by **foxwood** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 3:19 pm

Well standreds have been lowed so much that we will exsept anything we are told.